Yes
28% (81 votes)
Yes but docked points
59% (172 votes)
No
13% (38 votes)
Total votes: 291

Comments

Neil's picture

If a student is sick they have a day for each day out to make up work otherwise no late work is accepted

Beth's picture

I agree. Late work is only accepted of you are absent. I teach 7th grade and it is a bad pattern to break if students are given permission to turn in late work.

Mrs. Shoup's picture

Really? You would negate a student's ability to prove to you they know the material if they don't do it in a timely manner? Let me ask you, what would happen if you did not turn in your lesson plan the day your principal asked, or if you showed up late to a meeting, would your principal fire you, or refuse your work? A "no late work" policy is not realistic, especially for students who need extra time. Look at your gradebook, does it really reflect what the students know, or does it reflect how quickly the students do their work? If you truly care about student learning, you would give them every opportunity to aquire, manipulate, and understand the material. Your outlook on teaching makes me sad for education today.

Mrs. Kraft's picture

I appreciate your comments, but please don't belittle those who have a different opinion than yours. Even though I would not be fired for coming late to a meeting, if it happens over and over again, it would have an effect on the overall impression that I give to my employer or supervisor. One low score will not make or break a child's grade. I am also sure that everyone that commented has also made exceptions to that rule.

Can I hand in my quarter grades whenever I want? Can I be unprepared or "forget about" parent-teacher conferences? Can I complete my tax forms at my convenience? Can I use an expired coupon? Can I say, "I know that the sale was last week, but I had a lot on my mind"? Can I change my child's diapers when I get around to it, or does it need to be done when it is necessary?

There are deadlines that are concrete in life and I believe that we are doing our students a great disservice if we give them the impression that there aren't.

Please don't imply that I don't care about my students because I work from a slightly different paradigm. Please don't imply that my viewpoint is pathetic and that it makes you sad about education in general. From what you say, I can say almost for certain that you are tolerant and accepting of our students' various viewpoints. Please afford your colleagues the same respect.

Mrs. H's picture

I agree with you. If we allow our students to turn things in on their own timetable, we are doing them a disservice. The world will not treat them the same. They need to be problem solvers as well. Since I teach high schoolers, they are quite cabable of sending in assignments via email if they are absent. Their assignments are posted on the internet, so they have no excuse for not getting the information. I encourage them to use the tools of the 21st century - computer, internet, iphone, etc. to figure out for themselves how they will meet the deadline.

Todd Wasmund's picture

I agree with you whole heartedly. Were teachers we need to do everything in our power to get these students ready, being so rigid is unrealistic. If I didn't except late work almost all by students would fail.

Katriona Stevenson's picture

But in the real working world there are absolute deadlines. I think it depends the grade level you teach. Kids should be allowed the extra time and late work routine but weaned off of it in middle school and totally off of it by high school. its not real and gives students an artificial sense that whenever is always ok. Its not.

LM Harris's picture

I agree with Mrs. Shoup. Teachers are still too inflexible and rigid for my taste. Students have major life issues and most of us are still teaching as if all students are of the privileged class. We need to lighten up. Most businesses jumped on the bandwagon of relaxed Mondays and Fridays. They have been able survive and succeed in the global arena. Are we really preparing students for independence and success when we won't allow them to learn at their own pace? Just thank god when they do submit assignments.

Ms. Brown's picture

Why set a deadline date if students can bring in an assignment when they please? We need to make parents more accountable for their end of the education of their children.

Guest's picture

Your thinking on late work is absurd! Are you really naive enough to think that the student is doing the work and just "turning it in late"? No, they are getting it from their neighbor that turned it in on time and copying it word for word. So, they are not learning or retaining the material. They are simply plagiarizing someone's hard work. Get real Mrs. Shoup! How long have you been teaching? College and career readiness....that is what I am teaching! Not late work and plagiarizing!!!!

Nancy B's picture

Students prove mastery of skills and concepts when they take an assessment, not on homework, which may have been copied or had parent or tutor input. I have found that if students are permitted to turn in late work, they procrastinate and it generally doesn't get done at all. My high school students have told me they like the "no late work policy". It helps them keep up with the lessons and not get behind in understanding material they need to know for the next lesson. Assignments are only 15% of their grade, assessments are 85%. Their grade is a much better reflection of mastery, rather than work ethic.

The Truth's picture

I agree 100%. I can't stand grading late work, but I do it because its in the students' best interest. I want students to always feel they have a chance to succeed and learn in my class.

Guest's picture

We have to accept late work where I teach. This gets frustrating because this goes up until the last day for entering grades. The students have become so comfortable with this that they will wait until the last minute to submit work because they know that it will be accepted. This has only hurt the students rather than help them.

Guest's picture

You should negotiate for any work to be submitted within a "reasonable" amount of tiem.

Beth's picture

How does that teach responsibility for later in life. Can you turn in grades late?

Guest's picture

What would your principal do if you did turn them in late? Would he dock your pay? I doubt it. Plus, you are not a boss, you are a teacher. If you want to teach them the material you will give them every chance possible to learn it.

Sharon Pescheret's picture

Yes, it can be more work for the teachers. But, if what we do is truly about the learning, it should not matter whether that happens in week one or week nine. The only problem is when the homework was designed to give them practice for the formal assessment.

Tami Scruggs's picture

Our district also requires that we accept late work until the end of the grading period. Our campus administrator does not support homework and does not allow it to be for a grade. Our students are becoming less responsible and retention of content has decreased.

Buddy B's picture

Late work is usually not accepted, but if there are extreme extenuating circumstances I will accept it with a consequence. Most students do not complete the work to specifications, but since they must sign a contract, when grades are disputed, the students are held responsible.

Bev Storer's picture

When is our accoutability? Our school must accept late work...always in at the very last minute or later thatn the deadline andit must be accepted. This reinforces the idea of no accountablity, no respect for timelines. etc. Our credit card companies, etc. don't accept late items, and some Dr. charge for late or mssed appointments. Once in a while is one thing....but everdya no work, then it is in the night before grades are do. REALLY
What are we thinking?

Katriona Stevenson's picture

well stated Bev. and thank you for doing so. couldnt agree more.

Dr Mike's picture

I accept late homework (which I never call "homework," but "schoolwork") up to the time of the major test over which the assignment is concerned with. Time has never been a condition of content learning or achievement in my career. Responsibility of timeliness is another character issue that does not cloud academics.

Guest's picture

Students are given an opportunity to complete missing assignments and submit the work with a penalty in points. I have an established "no late work" policy so I am not required to accept any late work. I would rather have the students complete assignments and demonstrate learning than not get teh material. So I do not end up wwith massive grading the last few days I give a "drop dead" date for accepting any sections of work.

Mrs. Harris's picture

I agree with Dr. Mike. In our school we have a separate "behavior" report card to document behaviors like late work and we are expected to have parent contact. I do have after school repercussions for those students who don't hand their work in on time, however. Assignments are not docked for points. If a student can display that they know the content, I accept the work.

Linda-Jo's picture

I accept any and all late work up to the closing of grades. My philosophy is that I need to see it to understand what they are thinking. If I gave them a 0, I would be penalizing them double....it will be reflected on their test if they don't know what is going on.

Mrs. Richmond's picture

If a student is usually responsible, why not accept a late assignment? Do you always return quizzes and tests the very next day?

Guest's picture

Yes.

Mrs. Richmond's picture

I used to teach with a teacher who collected all homework in one batch on the day of the test, never checking it at any time from day to day. Guess when most of the kids did the homework? Guess how much copying went on? I know he wanted to encourage students to become accountable via long-range planning, but, in high school math, the needed daily learning doesn't happen with his system. Human nature (especially teenage human nature) trumped his good intentions.

Mary's picture

Homework is about practice, with the opportunity for meaningful feedback regarding progress toward the learning target of the lesson. Students should be expected to do the homework and held accountable for the practice (if it is indeed meaningful practice). Most educational experts in grading & reporting and formative assessment would contend that the feedback is important and we should not even assign a grade for practice. If we want grades to meaningfully represent what the student has learned, the grade should be based on scores from well-designed assessments. Of course we should accept homework when it is turned in, and we should hold the students accountable for doing the homework (practice) in order for them to have the opportunity for feedback and then to act on that feedback!

Sarah Kane's picture

School is a safe place to learn - to learn to live in the outside world - the place to learn consequences. One missing homework assignment would not have much affect on a student's grade, if he/she normally turned in all work on time, and if the teacher gives suffciient assignments thorughout grading period to "measure" the work of the students. Stop and think how you feel when someone is late in tending to your needs in the "real world" - your doctor, the teller at the bank, the contractor working on your house? Where do you think they should have learned to be "on time." Yes, emergencies happen, but not as often as people are "late" in our lives. My students have learned to be "on time" with work. And I have taught them that sometimes they need to make choices - do hoemwork or not. But they also are learning the consequences. Teaching for 45 years - and my students still deserve the best practices I can teach them.

2nd grade teacher's picture

I accept late work but it results in a 10 point penalty for each day late. After 5 days it is no longer accepted. Where I can appreciate the fact that students do have lives and afterschool activities, I usually give a project with a due date of two weeks later at a minimum. Several reminders go home in their planners and my weekly newsletter. It eliminates the drama.

Mrs. Reichert's picture

1 day 10% off, 2 days 20% off, 3 days 50%...zero after that.

Lynda Pilgreen's picture

At the end of the year I want to be able to say that I gave the student EVERY opportunity. Students who don't do their homework either don't need to or will fail in other ways.

Tim33333's picture

If a person comes in late to work, they can give an excuse, but their boss is not going to look favorably upon them. Eventually, if the late arrivals keep coming, that person will be asked to leave (i.e., they're fired).

I have seen bosses make exceptions--even again and again and again--but it was always an agonizing experience for the boss. And that boss was usually a lousy boss in many ways. Yes, nice, but too nice. Things fell apart.

I've tried being a nice "boss" in the classroom, even at one point giving only one due date for papers: the last day of class. (Yes, I'm not kidding.) In the end, it produced a lot of lazy students, crappy papers, and slush piles of more crap. Nice = lousy.

I have also tried the no-late-paper-no-matter-what policy. Yes, it cut down on the crap I had to deal with before and in some cases it even eliminated the problem; however, it also created a new problem: confrontations.

Like a boss that is a hardass, a teacher will inevitably face the student that will feel the no late work policy is "unfair" and "cruel". Unlike in the real world, though, the teacher cannot fire the student. He/she can recommend that the student drop the class, but he cannot fire him. If the student is irate enough, disciplinary action can be taken, but usually the student will just take the issue to the chair or dean anyway.

Now, in the real world there is also something called sick leave and personal days off. Where is the equivalent in the teacher's policies? If your syllabus is going to train the student for the real world (or follow a business model), then the teacher should be holistic, not selective, about that approach--unless the teacher admits that he's not training students for the real world but is actually training them for a mechanistic society based upon static rules. In other words, the teacher should be honest, not a hypocrite.

After I initiated the no-late-work-no-matter-what policy, I soon realized that it was completely unfair to the student that legitimately was sick, that was legitimately incapacitated, and that was legitimately grieving the death of a family member. The aforesaid student might be purely theoretical, but he was not impossible. (I wasn't about to waste my time--what little I have--at trying to separate the bull from the truth regarding each case.) If I'm going to say I'm preparing that student for the business world, my policy should completely reflect that business world. A no-late-work-no-matter-what policy by itself doesn't do that. Businesses have sick leave. Businesses have different incentives. Businesses have customers. Who is the customer in my classroom? Who is the employee? How do I reflect these concepts (and how accurately) in my policies? Where are the lines drawn in this analogy to where I do not become a hypocrite or a tyrant--or both?

I didn't drop my no-late-work-no-matter-what policy; instead, I dropped the business model.

I admitted that my classroom was not a reflection of the world outside it, so I quit using that excuse. Instead, I enforced the no-late-work-no-matter-what policy because I followed an authoritarian model. My classroom is not a democracy and not a business.

I made that clear the first day.

If the student feels it is unfair, then the student has the right to drop, which is equivalent to leaving my country: Start a new life elsewhere, dear citizen.

When it's made clear that the student still has a choice from Day One, then any argument after that fact loses its force. When a student complains, I remind him of the choice he made by saying, "You could've dropped, but you didn't. If you fail, it's not my fault, but your own. If you suffered unforeseen/uncontrollable consequences, you have my sympathy. But my policy remains. If that seems unfair, it's probably because it is. I never said it was, did I? This is neither a business nor a democracy; this is my classroom. You knew the consequences when you entered it, so now you must endure them. Try again next term--with another teacher, perhaps?"

In the end, it should be made clear to the student that you are NOT following a business model nor preparing them for a business world through your policies. That's a mistake. You can't fire students. You can't offer sick leave. You are not serving customers. In truth, you are enforcing an authoritarian model that leaves the last word in the teacher's mouth, whether that feels fair or not.